“I actually wanted to become a physical trainer. I got interested in it in Greece because I had never been fit in my career and then suddenly when I got there, my physical trainer [Gregory Georgitsas] became my friend.
“We hung out together. He was a runner, he did half marathons and marathons and represented Greece. He was my friend and I’d go training with him.
“He said, ‘come with me; if I do 10 laps, you do four’. That’s how I started to get involved in these things. Suddenly I was doing eight laps, and then I was running alongside him. It was late in my career, but I’d never been that fit before.
“That’s when I started to say to myself, ‘I should have met this guy earlier in my life’. My first coaching job was in Belgium at Rita Berlaar, the club where I played. I was assistant coach for the Under-11s! The coach was just one of the supporters and there were times when he didn’t pitch.
“I had an interest and because we trained mornings and afternoons, my evenings were free and I asked, ‘can I help there?’. They said, ‘yes, please help with the Under-11s because their coach has a job that sometimes means he is not here’.
“The guy very quickly dumped the team with me! Although he took the kids to their games on the weekends because I was playing. But in the week I was coaching. It was hectic. I was a bit all over the place, but I liked it. I felt there was something there.”
Back in South Africa
“When I came back I played again for Mamelodi Sundowns, when ClemensWesterhof was coach. I didn’t get on with him, he’s a little bit haughty about me having played in Greece, which he said was not the same standard as Holland, where he comes from.
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