After four games, Bayern have lost twice - including a 4-1 defeat by Barcelona, led by their former boss Hansi Flick - and sit 17th, which would leave them unseeded for the knockout phase play-off.
PSG's situation is worse, with the French champions in 25th - one spot outside the knockout places.
For two teams who contested the Champions League final in 2020, and who both lead their leagues by six points, the lowly rankings are already cause for concern.
Bayern's struggles are a far cry from their exploits in the old group stage, where the six-time European champions signed off with a record 41-match unbeaten run, featuring 37 wins and four draws.
Their last loss in the group phase came back in 2017 - a 3-0 defeat by PSG.
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