Sunday's derby defeat will have stung more than any other for United supporters in the past 10 years. Every chant that emitted from the away section highlighted City's superiority and one - 'Champions of England, champions of Europe' was hollered verbatim by United fans 15 years ago.
United's following was often stumped for a reply.
Arnold is convinced United are making good progress.
They have lost five of their first ten league games for the first time since 1986 - such a sorry start to a season that a four man delegation drove to Glasgow to sound out Alexander Chapman Ferguson.
The fear now, from some, is Erik ten Hag has crossed the point of no return. The supportive chanting from the Stretford End that sustained until beyond the full-time whistle should not be dismissed and this season is still salvageable.
And where else would United go? There is no indication they are preparing to change manager for the fifth time in the past decade and the investment on Ten Hag's watch has been so considerable a managerial change would be premature.
Ten Hag oversaw a genuinely successful 2022-23.
Thursday nights are not reserved for the drudgery of the Europa League this season and if United win their next two Champions League matches they are in the draw for the round of 16 with a match to spare.
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