That, in a microcosm, is the problem with this Manchester United side.
They do not look at themselves enough.
That lack of accountability is why they are closer to the relegation zone than the top four.
A win would have taken United above Forest. Instead, Forest are now six points clear of United, who are still marooned in 13th. United's evening ended with a feckless free kick conceded by Diogo Dalot inside his own third.
That was the final, agonising act.
This was Forest's first win at Old Trafford since Stan Collymore wowed the Scoreboard End in December 1994.
Forest threatened to end that wait last year by scoring two goals inside the first three minutes. United salvaged that day. They didn't today.
This was a severe regression for Ruben Amorim's side.
Three more goals sieved at Old Trafford and Andre Onana back in the form of his first six months at the club.
The Cameroonian was enjoying a fine season until his timid goalkeeping at Arsenal's corners and his howler was reminiscent of his error-strewn first six-months in Manchester.
Almost as bad was Chris Wood's header to make it 3-1 as United again shrunk amid the aerial bombardment.
Wood's header was stoppable, though.
Matthijs de Ligt left it for Onana, who left it for Lisandro Martinez, who let the ball drop in.
That Ajax triangle is not a ringing endorsement of Erik ten Hag's tenure.
Onana has had a week to forget yet De Ligt and Martinez cannot be certain of remaining mainstays in Ruben Amorim's defensive trident beyond this season.
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